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We want a real, mature debate

Students aren’t known for being patient. We’re actually quite impatient. We’re procrastinators. We’re perpetually busy. Despite these traits, students are independent and responsible ”” two attributes that are often associated with an adult. Yet, students are often treated like children.

The difference between most students and most children is that most students have the power to vote for California’s next governor.

Something, I believe, was overlooked when Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman agreed to their third, and possibly last, showdown until elections on Nov. 2, 2010.

The two candidates will debate at the Satellite Student Union (SSU) on the Fresno State campus on Saturday Oct. 2, 2010. But don’t get your hopes up, this political party is just for grown ups. Children can’t attend the debate, or even cover it as a student journalist, unless they hold a golden ticket.

And that is only possible if, and only if, you are affiliated with one of the five sponsors of the event ”” Univision, Fresno State, The Fresno Bee, The Fresno Area Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (FAHCC) and the city of Fresno.

Both campaigns were given an equal number of tickets to the debate.

This would be the sentence disclosing the amount of tickets each campaign distributed to each sponsor. However, The Collegian was rebuffed multiple times. It seems that the amount of sponsors versus the amount of students attending the debate is some kind of threat to public safety. Or should I say, the amount of adults versus the amount of children.

A representative from the SSU said the capacity audience for a debate is 800 seats and that it was only set up for 533 seats.

Associated Students, Inc. (ASI) said that there are as many as 300 to 500 tickets for the debate, that things are changing hourly and to call the University Student Union (USU) for logistics.

A faculty member from the USU said it’s not answering any questions and to call Fresno State’s­University Communications.

A representative from University Communications said it’s more like 300 tickets and to call the Univision corporate office in New York.

An employee from the Univision corporate office said it doesn’t answer media questions and to call Univision in Fresno.

A local Univision employee said it was surprised about what the corporate office suggested and needed to talk with corporate before talking with The Collegian.

ASI was the only organization that was of any assistance.

ASI President Pedro Ramirez first asked Univision if the debate held on campus could be open to the public. Univision refused. Ramirez then requested that Univision broadcast the debate live for student viewers. Univision refused.

It’s awful. Not as awful as Detroit, Ms. eBay, but awful. To add insult to injury, the UC Davis University Communications office said it held a lottery for its students and the general public for last night’s debate between Brown and Whitman. Names were drawn, tickets were gifted and sides were taken.

There will be no such lottery at Fresno State. Students must watch the debate when it’s broadcasted nationally at 4 p.m., in Spanish on Univision.

Unfortunately, I don’t speak Spanish. I speak English, which means I have to stream an edited version of the debate from my laptop.

So when I received a mass email from the FAHCC inviting me to submit a question to the candidates, I felt like a child. It was almost as if I was back in the fifth grade, and Ms. Polacheck was assuring me that no question is a stupid question, and to ask away.

Well, I’m asking ”” why is the debate not open to the students?

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    Rosalie MarquezOct 1, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    The Students are the future of California and should have every right to be at the Debate!!!

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    Rosalie MarquezOct 1, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    The Students are the future of California and should have every right to be at the Debate!!!

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    BossrichardOct 1, 2010 at 1:06 am

    This is an American and California disgrace that this debate is not open to the public and at least carried in english on television for the public. Again public servants are pandering to the Latio vote. Bye Bye America-Hello Mexico.

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    LMSep 30, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Great article Danielle! The whole setup is really bullshit…they think they’ll get a lot of Hispanic voters from the Valley by broadcasting on Univision but they must have forgotten that there’s still English speaking people in Fresno and in the Valley!

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    Eric MoranaSep 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Amazing insight to a very frustrating situation for all Fresno State Students! Students should stand up and start demanding to be included in events when it is held on OUR campus! Fresno State is not just a beautiful piece of land that any group can come and rent it out at their whim. This campus is home to over 22,000 students and when an event is held on campus their needs should be top priority, hence the involvement of the students when major events take place on campus.

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    Eric MoranaSep 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Amazing insight to a very frustrating situation for all Fresno State Students! Students should stand up and start demanding to be included in events when it is held on OUR campus! Fresno State is not just a beautiful piece of land that any group can come and rent it out at their whim. This campus is home to over 22,000 students and when an event is held on campus their needs should be top priority, hence the involvement of the students when major events take place on campus.

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    RidiculousSep 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    This is ridiculous! If it wasn’t obvious before that the great State of California doesn’t care about it’s students, here is one more example!

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    PeterSep 29, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    “Trust is a two way street. If your government does not trust you, how can you
    trust your government?”
    — Bruce Montague

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    PeterSep 29, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    I wish Fresno State had done more to involve its students in such an important debate.

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  • AnonymousSep 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    “Why is the debate not open to the students?”

    Great question, it is even a bigger insult to us “children” that the debate itself will be held in the Satellite Student Union.

    As a student, with a lot of interest in politics, I was very excited to hear that this debate will be held on our campus. Immediately I planned to attend, but soon after I was disappointed, but not surprised, to learn that students will not be allowed. Despite the restriction I tried to find alternative ways to attend the event. I spoke to a member of ASI and learned that they too have been trying to get at least a few students in but to no avail. I’m glad the collegian made note of ASI as the “only organization of any assistance”. I want to follow up by congratulating ASI on their hard-work despite the negative outcome.

    P.S. If anyone finds a golden ticket hook me up.

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  • AnonymousSep 29, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    “Why is the debate not open to the students?”

    Great question. It is even a bigger insult to us “children” that the debate itself will be held in the Satellite Student Union.

    As a student, with a lot of interest in politics, I was very excited to hear that this debate will be held on our campus. Immediately I planned to attend. Soon after I was disappointed, but not surprised, to learn that students will not be allowed. Despite the restriction I tried to find alternative ways to attend the event. I spoke to a member of ASI and learned that they too have been working hard to get at least a few students in, but to no avail. I’m glad the collegian made note of ASI as the “only organization of any assistance”. I want to follow up by congratulating ASI on their hard-work despite the negative, yet predictable, outcome.

    P.S. If anyone finds a golden ticket hook me up.

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    Cyrus S.Sep 29, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    “Why is the debate not open to the students?”

    Great question, it is even a bigger insult to us “children” that the debate itself will be held in the Satellite Student Union.

    As a student, with a lot of interest in politics, I was very excited to hear that this debate will be held on our campus. Immediately I planned to attend, but soon after I was disappointed, but not surprised, to learn that students will not be allowed. Despite the restriction I tried to find alternative ways to attend the event. I spoke to a member of ASI and learned that they too have been trying to get at least a few students in but to no avail. I’m glad the collegian made note of ASI as the “only organization of any assistance”. I want to follow up by congratulating ASI on their hard-work despite the negative outcome.

    P.S. If anyone finds a golden ticket hook me up.

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    pissed offSep 29, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    why oh why do the administrators keep failing at taking care of the students? The building was paid with student fees, money donated for students, and by the state so that it would be a building for student activities. Another complete disappointment. Its evident that its just a paycheck to them and that they don’t care about Fresno State academic excellence or even what is fair.

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    CyrusSep 29, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Just wanted to comment in support of this article.

    As a student, with an interest in politics, I was excited when I first heard about the upcoming debate. Soon after, I was disappointed to learn students were not allowed. In an effort to still get in, I spoke to a member of ASI. I learned that ASI has been working hard on behalf of students but to no avail. Indeed, these politicians and the organizers of the debate treat us like children.

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