Proposition 1A funds high-speed train through state
With the November election quickly approaching, Fresno State student voters will face a nearly $10 billion question on the ballot: Are they willing to spend their tax dollars on Proposition 1A̢۪s high-speed rail bonds?
The state of California, according to the League of Women Voters, traditionally uses bonds to finance major infrastructure projects. These often include projects such as roads, schools and parks, which benefit taxpayers — including students — over time.
If passed, Proposition 1A would authorize $9.95 billion in bonds to begin construction on the first phase of a high-speed rail line. The high-speed passenger trains would eventually run between San Diego and the San Francisco Bay Area, making stops in the central San Joaquin Valley, with further investments later. The proposed routes would also fork just south of Merced, with one route continuing to the Bay Area and the other going to Sacramento.
Proposition 1A has earned support from legislators like California Congressman Jim Costa and Assemblyman Juan Arambula. Some of the benefits hoped for include improving air quality by lowering the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by cars taken off the road, saving farmland over time by not having to expand freeway and highway widths, and boosting local economies with the related creation of jobs.
But with hard economic times, the proposition faces opposition. Critics question if the timing is right for such a costly bond project.
The price to pay back the $9.95 billion in bonds from Proposition 1A will actually cost taxpayers about $19.4 billion over a period of 30 years, according to the State Legislative Analyst.
One study, sponsored by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association and the Reason Foundation and Citizens Against Government Waste, found the full rail project would cost at least $40 billion to construct — far beyond the $9.95 billion that Proposition 1A would provide. The study “The California Rail Proposal: A Due Diligence Reportâ€Âalso suggests that rider usage would be significantly lower than proponents project.
“We think that numbers on estimated ridership are overly optimistic,â€Â Eric Eisenhammer, legal assistant for the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, said in a phone interview. “We have seen estimates where they’re estimating more riders per mile than Japan gets, and [Japan’s] population is roughly three times as much as California.â€Â
At a public forum Oct. 15 at Fresno State, Congressman Costa said that even though some people are concerned with costs associated with high-speed rail construction, the system is something that Californians need to invest in for the future.
“We’ve lived off the investments that our parents made and this is an investment for the future,â€Â Costa said. “The government helped subsidize highways… The government helped subsidized airports. A rail system isn’t any different.â€Â
Assemblyman Arambula also told the 40 to 50 people in attendance at the forum that voters need to look at Proposition 1A from a cost-benefit point of view. Arambula said that for every $1 paid, there would eventually be $2 put back into the economy.
Another concern given at the forum was people̢۪s ability to adapt to changes in transportation. One attendee was concerned that people would be too used to driving their cars and wouldn̢۪t be willing to make the change to using the high-speed rail.
Arambula said that he knew people would be able to change with time. He compared the situation to people using a house phone –and they probably now have just a cell phone, with the advancement of technology.
“If my father wanted to go somewhere, he used to travel by horse or donkey,â€Â Arambula said. “Not everybody has always had a car.â€Â
According to an Amtrak news release, 32 percent more people used Amtrak’s San Joaquin passenger service, in July 2008 than in July 2007. “Western corridorâ€Â trains, Amtrak said, have seen record ridership month after month in the past year. Also, rising gas prices have led people to try and find alternative modes of transportation, both to save money and to be more environmentally friendly.
Costa also pointed to Europe and Japan, stating how both areas have successful high speed-rail systems. Arambula pointed to Mexico, which is constructing a rail between its two most populated cities. Arambula said it would just be a matter of time until California embraces rail travel but sooner would be better than later.
But Eisenhammer thinks there are other problems to handle when it comes to regional transportation. He cited more congestion from people commuting to and from work locally. He said that there should be more focus and money spent on local transit instead of intra-city transportation.
“I think more people have problems getting to and from work,â€Â Eisenhammer said. “Part of the problem is [that] the high-speed rail wouldn’t connect people from highly populated suburbs to the city.â€Â
Costa, though, said at the forum that he expects the high-speed rail system to connect people to different parts of the state easily and quickly, without having to spend time in congested traffic and having to wait around in airports.
“It’s not supposed to be a commuter train,â€Â Costa said. “It’s the most beneficial between 80 and 300 miles of travel.â€Â
And with a projected 160,000 construction jobs and 450,000 permanent jobs created, the rail project would boost the economy, Costa said.
“It could be the shot in the arm the economy needs,â€Â he said.
Tom West • Oct 29, 2008 at 2:06 am
Don’t forget that if private investors and federal government don’t provide the additional money, then the bonds just simply won’t get issued. The ballot measure gives the state the right to issue bonds, not an obligation.
Further, high-speed rail has teh potenital to make a profit… it doesn’t get built, then miles of unprofitable highway lanes will have to be built instead.
Tom West • Oct 29, 2008 at 9:06 am
Don’t forget that if private investors and federal government don’t provide the additional money, then the bonds just simply won’t get issued. The ballot measure gives the state the right to issue bonds, not an obligation.
Further, high-speed rail has teh potenital to make a profit… it doesn’t get built, then miles of unprofitable highway lanes will have to be built instead.
Richard • Oct 25, 2008 at 9:37 am
Californians can’t afford automobiles, gas, and highway and airport expansion either. If you totalled up the money wasted on the automobile, the amount would be truly staggering. And most of the money just flows out of the state. Compared to the billions in taxpayer dollars wasted on roads and highways and the hundreds of billions being wasted by people on gas and automobiles, high speed rail is truly a bargain.
I was just in Europe and I must say high-speed rail is the best way of getting around than being stuffed like cattle in a plane or being stuck in traffic with angry drivers.
Countries around the world, including oil-rich Russia are going for high-speed rail in a big way. It is time that the US caught up before it falls even further behind.
More in my blog:
http://everyoneforever.org/blogger/
Richard • Oct 25, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Californians can’t afford automobiles, gas, and highway and airport expansion either. If you totalled up the money wasted on the automobile, the amount would be truly staggering. And most of the money just flows out of the state. Compared to the billions in taxpayer dollars wasted on roads and highways and the hundreds of billions being wasted by people on gas and automobiles, high speed rail is truly a bargain.
I was just in Europe and I must say high-speed rail is the best way of getting around than being stuffed like cattle in a plane or being stuck in traffic with angry drivers.
Countries around the world, including oil-rich Russia are going for high-speed rail in a big way. It is time that the US caught up before it falls even further behind.
More in my blog:
http://everyoneforever.org/blogger/
Spokker • Oct 24, 2008 at 11:53 am
We have to put up the money first before the federal government and private investors come forth.
High speed rail could be an attractive investment. In Europe Air France is getting into the high speed rail business.
Prop 1A would not only provide jobs, but result in useful infrastructure when all is said and done. It’s time to build it. I like this quote from the California High Speed Rail Blog.
“Some suggest we wait and build HSR later. When is “later”? When oil prices have shot through $200/bbl? When construction inflation costs have pushed the project’s cost over $50 billion? If we had approved HSR in 1998, it would be ready to go now, ready to provide economic growth and financial savings. The longer we wait, the higher the cost will be.”
If you think it’s a good idea, vote yes on Prop 1A.
Spokker • Oct 24, 2008 at 6:53 pm
We have to put up the money first before the federal government and private investors come forth.
High speed rail could be an attractive investment. In Europe Air France is getting into the high speed rail business.
Prop 1A would not only provide jobs, but result in useful infrastructure when all is said and done. It’s time to build it. I like this quote from the California High Speed Rail Blog.
“Some suggest we wait and build HSR later. When is “later”? When oil prices have shot through $200/bbl? When construction inflation costs have pushed the project’s cost over $50 billion? If we had approved HSR in 1998, it would be ready to go now, ready to provide economic growth and financial savings. The longer we wait, the higher the cost will be.”
If you think it’s a good idea, vote yes on Prop 1A.
Alumni • Oct 24, 2008 at 9:30 am
High speed rail sounds like a great idea, but in reality CA cannot afford it. There is little to no money right now for the maintaince of our state highways. This idea is built on the assumption that investors would help with cost. What investors?
Also, Bond Projects almost always fail due the time constraints put on them. The environmental documents alone will take years to complete, let alone the mitigation factor.
If our state could afford it, I would vote for it. Right now, it’s a bad plan.
Alumni • Oct 24, 2008 at 4:30 pm
High speed rail sounds like a great idea, but in reality CA cannot afford it. There is little to no money right now for the maintaince of our state highways. This idea is built on the assumption that investors would help with cost. What investors?
Also, Bond Projects almost always fail due the time constraints put on them. The environmental documents alone will take years to complete, let alone the mitigation factor.
If our state could afford it, I would vote for it. Right now, it’s a bad plan.