Jim: The spring semester marks a time of renewal for many. It spurns new beginnings along with fresh starts.
For our university̢۪s athletic department it means the announcement of two new women̢۪s sports: swimming/diving and lacrosse.
The two sports were added in an effort to seek Title IX compliance.
The swimming and diving team was last active during the 2003-2004 school year, while lacrosse is a completely new sport for our university and most of the state.
While I think swimming and diving makes sense, the addition of lacrosse was not a smart one by Fresno State.
Kim: Although I don̢۪t know all of the information behind this decision, the addition of lacrosse makes no sense. I̢۪ve never known it to be big in this area or even the west coast.
So what are the chances of supporting those female athletes who will work their butts off to play? Slim to none. Not because they don̢۪t deserve it but because I̢۪m just not that interested.
I also don̢۪t know where they will find people who want to play and what will happen if there aren̢۪t enough?
Jim: I don̢۪t understand why the university would add a sport that has little, if any popularity in the Central Valley.
The CIF Central Section doesn̢۪t even have lacrosse as one of its sanctioned high school sports. This means that recruiting will be much harder for Fresno State.
Our school recruits many of its athletes for several sports from the Valley high schools. So to add a sport that the Valley doesn̢۪t support doesn̢۪t really make sense.
And it̢۪s not just the Valley. Only four out of 10 sections in California support high school lacrosse programs.
Kim: So, they are going to invest all this money for what? I could suggest a couple other programs that would be more beneficial to the university.
It might be something deeper then we understand, though.
There are some club teams on campus that wouldn̢۪t have let this money go to waste.
Jim: If the university could do it all over again, I would suggest adding women̢۪s water polo instead of lacrosse.
Water polo is one of the hottest sports in California right now. Several schools in the Fresno area support programs, which would make recruiting much easier than lacrosse.
Cal, Stanford, UC Davis and St. Mary̢۪s are the only Division I California universities that have women̢۪s lacrosse programs compared to the 11 that support women̢۪s water polo.
Kim: Besides that, our water polo team is established and successful. It makes so much more sense to invest in something that̢۪s already up and running rather than starting from scratch.
Not to reiterate what we both have already said, but building up success for lacrosse is going to be hard.
They will have far less support, further to travel and will need bigger incentive in recruiting athletes.
Jim: If adding lacrosse was meant to be a budget saver, than I think some people were mistaken. Travel costs will be more for lacrosse because the Bulldogs would have only four Division I opponents to face in California.
Additionally, money is going to spent on building a completely new complex east of Bulldog Stadium.
Kim: A stadium that might not get as much use as they are hoping, too. We have a lot of gyms, fields and clubs that would play in or on them.
We shouldn̢۪t neglect those for something that could be a complete failure.
Nick Hatamiya • Jan 23, 2008 at 11:12 am
I think you should give Women’s Lax a chance. The bulldogs may look at joining the MPSF league alongside the four California schools mentioned (cal, stanford, uc davis, and st. mary’s) along wtih denver, and oregon. Lacrosse is a very entertaining sport that many people on the West Coast know little about. Gradually though, it is becoming more popular over here and I am glad to hear that Fresno will be having a team.
Nick Hatamiya • Jan 23, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I think you should give Women’s Lax a chance. The bulldogs may look at joining the MPSF league alongside the four California schools mentioned (cal, stanford, uc davis, and st. mary’s) along wtih denver, and oregon. Lacrosse is a very entertaining sport that many people on the West Coast know little about. Gradually though, it is becoming more popular over here and I am glad to hear that Fresno will be having a team.
Joe Graben • Jan 19, 2008 at 8:41 am
My mom played LaCrosse at UCLA…in 1950. She wasn’t an athlete, but she really enjoyed LaCrosse. Go figure. Sounds like the need to be compliant and the new soccer field just made it easy to throw LaCrosse in the mix. Actually, it is a resurrected sport of late in the North Valley area, so somebody might have their pulse on that action. Makes good sense to utilize your current facility in this way, and bringing back diving is huge, too.
Joe Graben • Jan 19, 2008 at 3:41 pm
My mom played LaCrosse at UCLA…in 1950. She wasn’t an athlete, but she really enjoyed LaCrosse. Go figure. Sounds like the need to be compliant and the new soccer field just made it easy to throw LaCrosse in the mix. Actually, it is a resurrected sport of late in the North Valley area, so somebody might have their pulse on that action. Makes good sense to utilize your current facility in this way, and bringing back diving is huge, too.
Allie • Jan 16, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Women’s lacrosse….ummm…great…I think the intro of two new women’s sports is awesome but don’t know why they chose lacrosse…anyways they should bring back men’s wrestling. I’m still bitter about the elimination of the sport!
Allie • Jan 17, 2008 at 5:06 am
Women’s lacrosse….ummm…great…I think the intro of two new women’s sports is awesome but don’t know why they chose lacrosse…anyways they should bring back men’s wrestling. I’m still bitter about the elimination of the sport!
Porch Monkey • Jan 16, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Go Bulldog lacrosse!—–good luck with recruiting in Baltimore—-wise business move for the Bulldog athletic dept———–NOT!
Porch Monkey • Jan 16, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Go Bulldog lacrosse!—–good luck with recruiting in Baltimore—-wise business move for the Bulldog athletic dept———–NOT!
Salvador Gholley • Jan 16, 2008 at 10:20 am
Interested in men’s lacrosse? Central California Lacrosse Club – practices Saturdays @10am near Peach and Gettysburg (south of Shaw).
Salvador Gholley • Jan 16, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Interested in men’s lacrosse? Central California Lacrosse Club – practices Saturdays @10am near Peach and Gettysburg (south of Shaw).
Lacrosse ain't so bad • Jan 16, 2008 at 10:07 am
Water polo should have been added. They won a club national championship and the valley definitely supports their water sports… However, as someone who as watched and played lacrosse, it is a good sport. It’s catching on in northern california and the new soccer stadium just makes too much sense to combine the efforts. give lacrosse a chance and hopefully water polo is close to getting back in the next couple of years.
Lacrosse ain't so bad • Jan 16, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Water polo should have been added. They won a club national championship and the valley definitely supports their water sports… However, as someone who as watched and played lacrosse, it is a good sport. It’s catching on in northern california and the new soccer stadium just makes too much sense to combine the efforts. give lacrosse a chance and hopefully water polo is close to getting back in the next couple of years.
Sid Vicious • Jan 16, 2008 at 9:30 am
gymnastics——-many California schools that compete (Fullerton, Poly, Stanford, Cal, UCLA) and the perfect location for meets (Save Mart Center).
Why lacrosse?———————–why!!!
Sid Vicious • Jan 16, 2008 at 4:30 pm
gymnastics——-many California schools that compete (Fullerton, Poly, Stanford, Cal, UCLA) and the perfect location for meets (Save Mart Center).
Why lacrosse?———————–why!!!
Dan • Jan 16, 2008 at 6:52 am
Some errors with this piece. Establishing women’s water polo would not be as cheaply done as you think. The North Gym pool doesn’t meet NCAA field of play requirements, which means playing/practicing off campus. Pool time won’t be free.
And, Fresno State was already planning to build a women’s soccer field east of Bulldog Stadium, which is where the lacrosse team would also play.
Dan • Jan 16, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Some errors with this piece. Establishing women’s water polo would not be as cheaply done as you think. The North Gym pool doesn’t meet NCAA field of play requirements, which means playing/practicing off campus. Pool time won’t be free.
And, Fresno State was already planning to build a women’s soccer field east of Bulldog Stadium, which is where the lacrosse team would also play.