Check out the background of my arguments in favor of and others̢۪ arguments against the importance of Bulldog football here and here. Dissension is found on the comments. They ultimately prompted this blog.
The football program does Fresno State pretty well.
Maybe there’s no evidence that the football program benefits academics, but we have a basically self-sustaining team — not the wider athletic department — that does no financial harm to the university.
There’s a bare surplus this year — just over $5,000, as I read in the Bee — so football surely doesn’t hurt things financially much if at all, especially if we or a conference buddy goes to a bowl game. I’m crossing my fingers for non-financial reasons.
Even if ticket sales don̢۪t reach projections, it̢۪s still a solid investment in prestige. Disagree? What about the increase in enrollment?
That’s not fair — reality tells me that it’s hard to tell if football really drives enrollment increases.
More students will always be good for the university as a whole. Quickly growing enrollment is a good way to increase your share of the CSU budget. How good does this line look in a funds proposal or whatever they use in negotiations?
“Fresno State is the fastest-growing CSU in the system. We really need money for a parking garage.â€Â
I doubt parking garage funds are a line item on the CSU budget. We can hope.
But with constantly growing enrollment, who̢۪s to say that the football program has bolstered us whatsoever to get to this point?
College growth without the football.
Why is Fresno State so big on such a small campus? That̢۪s pretty easy.
Chew on this: there really aren’t many four-year colleges in the area. Our competition among affordable — state-subsidized — higher education is basically Stanislaus State and that campus isn’t that close.
Prestigious undergraduate programs somewhere else are either private or obscure. Obscure works fine for some public schools. Just not our fast-growing, public, commuter college, lone among four-year public education in a few counties.
Those private, obscure schools also tend to be liberal arts colleges. Limited course selection when it comes to building things with math, science and computers. Limited everything — all the benefits and problems of small colleges.
UC Merced, though, is one to watch out for. Once it gets off the ground, our enrollment could very easily be split between them and us. Welty and the rest of the staff is preparing — some would argue failing to prepare — Fresno State for the oncoming century in more ways than we realize.
Despite that the University of California is directed more towards graduate students than baccalaureates, they tend to be popular with the top something-percent of a high school graduating class — instant admission, dontcha know?
This makes it all the more important that Fresno State set itself apart, distinguish itself.
Fresno already has the draw as a teachers’ college — has been since it was founded in 1911 — and does very well in training local nurses, too. Those two fields will always be draws.
But we’re not talking about good, solid students aiming for public service; we’re talking about “miracle geniuses,â€Â the social entrepreneurs.
I̢۪ve known too many miracle geniuses to buy into any relation. Students who are miracle geniuses through high school don̢۪t stay that way. That̢۪s my observation, bolstered by someone̢۪s observations of law school graduates̢۪ pay and job satisfaction.
Students who did seemingly perfect in law school grade-wise had similar pay, but substantially less job satisfaction than their less grade-centric colleagues.
The study found no correlation between grades and pay — in America, that’s success.
It̢۪s not too irresponsible to suggest that a similar mentality drives most students who do well in high school or undergraduate work.
Those miracle geniuses who don’t flounder in undergraduate more often have the academic blinders on — more interested in game theory and subatomic science than founding a world-shaking start-up.
Agreeable students, who have a way with words, people and often-unscrupulous business practices are who we want. They̢۪re the entrepreneurs. To their credit, they usually hate school.
Fresno State is unique in location, demographics and proximity to other locations, but only football really gives us the prestige edge.
Football is for the college?
There are studies I̢۪m too lazy to dig up that suggest that name recognition, after only cost, is basically the whole battle when it comes to choosing a college.
In several cases, it̢۪s simply name recognition and impressiveness factor, even when cost still matters.
Prestige appeals to everyone at some base level, so the only thing better than that on your wall-mounted sheepskin is prestige at a discount — that’s Fresno State’s niche.
Football remains a good way to bolster name recognition, it̢۪s like prestige-in-training, at the very least.
After all, the best thing about sports headlines — unlike news or features buried beyond page A-1 — is that they get read.
They̢۪re discussed openly, avidly, actively, repetitively. They̢۪re debated with even more ferocity.
A professor̢۪s study of MySpace use among college students doesn̢۪t make nearly as readable news, and definitely not as much as a narrow 47-45 brawl against a Texas tradition powerhouse.
Triple overtime is always national television. Always nationally discussed. Always promotes national name recognition.
Name recognition keeps the name in the back of your mind. Unless you’re constantly thinking about football, when someone asks you about a college, the tendency is to respond positively — “I think I’ve heard that’s a good school.”
People think positively about something, and forget everything but the good feelings. Not everyone succumbs all the time. Enough do.
There̢۪s some psychology term for that phenomenon. I don̢۪t know it.
College is for the football?
If it were true, I̢۪d say people don̢۪t seriously choose the college for the football, except I once had a roommate who did. I myself came here for two reasons: cost and marching band. In that order, but with much more emphasis on the latter than you̢۪d believe.
People do come to college for the college experience — football included. People come unknowingly because of football.
As a commenter said, the “brunt of the funds” at Fresno State comes from taxpayers. Don’t forget the middleman — the Chancellor’s office.
If Fresno State wants the brunt of the funds from the Chancellor’s office — here’s a hint: like all the others it does — Fresno State needs a nice, big increase in enrollment, consistent from year to year.
To get this? Fresno State needs recognition. It has students, and growing enrollment. It needs even more students and even faster enrollment to get some more money.
Growth of students means growth of budget, and eventually growth of academics. It̢۪s an established and time-honored process. I don̢۪t doubt that name recognition, via football headlines, helps a lot.
Maybe I go a little too far, maybe I don̢۪t. Either way, the football program does much more than it̢۪s credited.
It doesn̢۪t matter what the university is known for if we̢۪re first trying to get known at all. It hasn̢۪t always been this way, but with schools upon schools in this country, that̢۪s just the name of the game.
We have to be a college town before we̢۪re an academic college. Football̢۪s the way to both.
Comments are welcome, but remember that this is an addendum and clarification to the previous positions, and is posted in response to comments on either. Read them here and here.
Davis Carr • Sep 18, 2007 at 10:49 am
Fresno State should gain UC status or house the central valley’s UC medical school. Who the hell would attend UC Merced?
Davis Carr • Sep 18, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Fresno State should gain UC status or house the central valley’s UC medical school. Who the hell would attend UC Merced?
Benjamin Baxter • Sep 14, 2007 at 3:56 pm
The book might be an interesting read, but at the expense of judging it by its cover, it doesn’t seem like the author went into the topic with an open, objective mind and let himself be persuaded from there.
Maybe I’m being too idealistic.
Benjamin Baxter • Sep 14, 2007 at 10:56 pm
The book might be an interesting read, but at the expense of judging it by its cover, it doesn’t seem like the author went into the topic with an open, objective mind and let himself be persuaded from there.
Maybe I’m being too idealistic.
Benjamin Baxter • Sep 14, 2007 at 3:52 pm
I don’t claim to expertise from marching band. I never used my experience in the marching band to back my credibility, so to imply I feel credible because of it is a foolish accusation.
Long, and well-thought-out is well above the bar for most newspapers, not mentioning blogs. I won’t bother linking Osegueda’s column.
I chose not to run it in my column because I already did this topic on Wednesday and don’t want to bring up the same one again, if only for the sake of variety.
The only thing it keeps from being in the paper, or in the news section, is the lack of quotes and names and titles of the people I’ve talked to over the years.
A journalism professor added the sports headline angle. A curriculum and instruction professor talked about the law school job satisfaction thing. A friend of mine in a psychology class talked about the abstract forgetting-the-details-and-leaving-an-impression thing that was harder to explain than to understand.
Some professor taught her that.
If I were full-time and really more invested in this, I’d write in more detail, with quotes and backing. But I’m still an excess-units, full-time student.
I don’t have time or energy to devote any more hours to thinking and talking and writing about this sort of thing, at least while I still go to classes and try to do some homework.
I know I’m right, and that I didn’t just pull this as conjecture from the crapper. People who know what they’re talking about helped form these opinions and insights. But saying that doesn’t prove that, so that’s why this portion is in a blog.
If only I believed in taking notes during class, eh?
Benjamin Baxter • Sep 14, 2007 at 10:52 pm
I don’t claim to expertise from marching band. I never used my experience in the marching band to back my credibility, so to imply I feel credible because of it is a foolish accusation.
Long, and well-thought-out is well above the bar for most newspapers, not mentioning blogs. I won’t bother linking Osegueda’s column.
I chose not to run it in my column because I already did this topic on Wednesday and don’t want to bring up the same one again, if only for the sake of variety.
The only thing it keeps from being in the paper, or in the news section, is the lack of quotes and names and titles of the people I’ve talked to over the years.
A journalism professor added the sports headline angle. A curriculum and instruction professor talked about the law school job satisfaction thing. A friend of mine in a psychology class talked about the abstract forgetting-the-details-and-leaving-an-impression thing that was harder to explain than to understand.
Some professor taught her that.
If I were full-time and really more invested in this, I’d write in more detail, with quotes and backing. But I’m still an excess-units, full-time student.
I don’t have time or energy to devote any more hours to thinking and talking and writing about this sort of thing, at least while I still go to classes and try to do some homework.
I know I’m right, and that I didn’t just pull this as conjecture from the crapper. People who know what they’re talking about helped form these opinions and insights. But saying that doesn’t prove that, so that’s why this portion is in a blog.
If only I believed in taking notes during class, eh?
Hmm • Sep 14, 2007 at 11:54 am
It’s hard to take this kind of thing seriously (I know it’s just a blog) because your only claim to expertise is that you’re in marching band.
I know it’s just a blog, but this long, well-thought-out piece is completely devoid of credibility and lacks expert opinion.
I haven’t read it in a few years, but I recommend “Beer and Circus” for an educated look at college sports.
http://www.amazon.com/Beer-Circus-Crippling-Undergraduate-Education/dp/0805068112/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0082261-6863244?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189795638&sr=1-1
Hmm • Sep 14, 2007 at 6:54 pm
It’s hard to take this kind of thing seriously (I know it’s just a blog) because your only claim to expertise is that you’re in marching band.
I know it’s just a blog, but this long, well-thought-out piece is completely devoid of credibility and lacks expert opinion.
I haven’t read it in a few years, but I recommend “Beer and Circus” for an educated look at college sports.
http://www.amazon.com/Beer-Circus-Crippling-Undergraduate-Education/dp/0805068112/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0082261-6863244?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189795638&sr=1-1